Aw, super!
Вы меня добить решили? Сначала про Кару, теперь про Ли?
Классный клип, не была уверена на счет песни (не фонад), но к концу прониклась :)
Очень понравился момент на слова про его одиночество, просто чувствовалось это в видеоряде.
И финал тронул. Он опять будет здесь и она будет здесь и пошел Мур в то самое место.

Да не сговариваясь, видимо, решили). Я сама не фонат, но некоторые песни нравятся, и это одна из них... всегда мне очень напоминала о Ли.

Да... "кто бы ни был со мной - я все равно изначально один" - вызывает во мне какую-то радость с грустью смешанную... вселенскую, в нем это по жизни сквозит, и это то, с чем я отождествляюсь сильно.

Спасибо за комментарии!)) Я не уверена была, ляжет ли такой в целом шальной и оптимистичный трэк на БСГ, но получается, что через юмор Ли, это вышло даже удачно местами).

Так и я к тому. Даже странно сначала было, что юмор сквозить через весь клип, хотя слова местами весьма и весьма не юморные. Но видеоряд так сделан, что финал все равно оптимистичен (по крайней мере я так увидела). Я опасалась, что будет наоборот, сначала наулыбаюсь, а потом будет грустно, но вышло иначе, сначала опасалась, а потом улыбнулась в конце :)
Короче, о чем я, не важно, что там кое-кто имел в виду, для меня Ди не одинок только тогда, когда он с Карой, вернее не всегда, но бывают моменты... и я верю, что в конце они totally complete each other. Это мой канон. И точка :)

Ну знаешь, юмор - это не главное во что я тут целилась, хотя как аспект его характера он весьма привлекателен для меня потому что чувство иронии "мое" у него, сарказм и как присущее многим солдатам в военное время - склонность применять юмор, когда ситуация по сути нестерпима... хуже не бывает, живой ад. Но под слоем юмора там соответственно кроются весьма серьезные вещи... как то насколько он не в силах не бросать близким людям вызов, не идти против их эгоистических взглядов, даже когда им это больно.... Как это одиночество, изгойство какое-то и в то же время стремление стоять за команду свою, того же Тирола и Хило, хотя в каких-то вопросах они Ли абсолютно не близки.
Насчет Ли и Кары... да, дополняют... я вообще через ее выражение лица тут в финале пыталась показать это зеркало... Ли, который на мгновение видит ее без "помех" и слышит - и через нее себя настоящего, целостного. Вообще строки "Бог не ангел" - для меня были большущей отдушиной... во всех смыслах.

Может и не целилась, но этот налет юмора очень мне кажется помог всему ряду.
В том-то и дело, что за остальных он радеет (если такое слово все еще употребляется), но это не значит абсолютной близости (да и не надо этого как по мне), а вот с Карой, тут другое. да, оба дураки и комплексы у обоих с небоскреб, но не будешь отрицать, что они - пара. Нет, я знаю, что её пейрят с другим, да и его тоже, но для меня это так смешно.
На счте же одиночества, я бы сказала, что к другим он из него выходит по долгу службы, а к ней - потому что тянет. Она одна может его вытащить, перевести на этот план.
Мне очень жаль, что шоу это не развило, но теперь это даже не важно. Это то, во что я верю и что в них вижу. Это настоящее.

You've already had to put up with me commenting by Skype, but I thought I should post a reminder here that I think this is great - and could've been made for me!

Although don't be surprised if I find more things about it I want to tell you I like tomorrow, when I get back from work.

Edited at 2012-04-09 10:00 pm (UTC)

I'm really pleased that you enjoyed watching the vid and that it made you wanna rewatch! :) Means I might be able to speak of the truth through vids... occasionally ;p

OMG HOW COULD YOU THINK I WOULD NOT LIKE THIS????????

I had my doubts for some reason... :P

I can't stop watching it!!!!

This bit: 'But God isn't an angel, he's just the way he is' is my favourite thing in the whole world. :D :D :D: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Ok, ok, so I can't resist leaving timestampy feedback. You'll just have to put up with me. :p

The intro is VERY intriguing to me! At first it felt like such an unusual mix of images but at the same time I could feel this kind of wry humour matching the tone of the music. In particular:
0.05 I love this fake smile that Lee makes.
I also love the counterpoint of very serious content from the Pegasus arc with the cheery music. And most of all this little punctuation of Lee stopping the hole in his flight suit. ;) It still all is mainly working for me on a subliminal level rather than intellectually, but I really enjoy it! And having seen the vid as a whole now more and more, I find i come back to the intro with greater enjoyment each time.

0.22 'alien sidewalks'
Love the mix of images for this line--including Kara literally inside a Cylon! The wrecked landscapes are so powerful in setting up the context.

This line of 'How rarely one meets one's own kind' is so amazing for them and captures perfectly that sense of knowing and recognising each other that they have instantly. It also makes me recall the recent discussion with callmeonetrack about them being more alike than different really. :)

0.29 It is still the same
I love love love the juxtaposition of images of Kara and Lee laughing in recognition of each other. When I was first watching without the lyrics at all--I totally 'got' this moment anyway from the emotions.

0.33 Today I'm saying goodbye ...
I'll no doubt comment later on the way you use this amazing recurring lyric, in general, but here I just love how you have made the row of soldiers reflect the bars of the prison... and then link the two cell scenes from the start and the end of the series.

0.036
The way he flops his little feet is so perfect here!!! ::flail::

Also I really like the way you use a shot of a gate starting to open layered with Lee looking more openly at Kara in that scene. And then her face mirroring it back of course--as if the past is healed between them. :) (which is what that scene is about, of course, on many levels)

0.45
This shot of Kara under the viper when Lee returns is so rosy and warm--I love that colouring! And it matches the emotional warmth perfectly. Also, it's so great to have a vid that deals directly with LEE's returns from the dead... not just Kara's! ;)

0.47-1.06
This part is Lee in microcosm for me! Seriously, you could throw out Middleman and just show this 15 seconds instead! :) I love the part about 'being initially on my own'. It resonates so deeply as true for Lee. And then I love how you show this 'coming out of the flames' to show us how Lee is so hot-tempered, and that shot of him arriving in the mini with his attitude that people find so annoying (but which I love)! It reminds the viewer of this struggle he is in constantly in his life, born out of his relationship with Adama, and then you show his stubbornness, how he seems to turn against his father and end with this great line of 'I'll be back'. That is the perfect way to capture the truth of their relationship--that Lee may have all these issues, may indeed reject, rebel and also just define himself very separately from Adama--but he still loves him and he will still be back to stand there and at least deal with the shit between them, at the end of the day.

1.06 I love this shot of Lee when he's cuffed and Adama's turned away from him. His face says so much: 'this is how it is, I knew it would be ...' And it's so internal, he doesn't rail against it even, he just absorbs it.

1.10 Then using the shot of Tyrol reacting to Lee when he first arrives is AMAZING because it reminds us of how Lee is misunderstood, how no one around him really understands the scars he carries mentally or why he's like that ... and he doesn't bother to explain, he holds it in. It's of course true in fandom also--that look that Tyrol gives, I swear lots of fans react to him like that too! It used to pain me, but it's really just that they only see one aspect, see him from the outside only.

1.15 Beautiful transition with the use of the flyover! :) And a nice reminder that while Lee might have had a lot of 'tude' about doing it, he still turned up. ;)

Thanks so much for the detailed feedback! It's the best kind of praise one can get... ((()))

this little punctuation of Lee stopping the hole in his flight suit. ;)

The point of that whole intro to me was to highlight the craziness of contrast between the seriousness of circumstances and Lee's and other soldiers' sense of humor as a dealing mechanism at the time of war... and also the fact that despite of the tight bundle of a sense of fear, self-identity loss and complete helplessness along with guilt and shame when all hell breaks loose does not stop Lee from actually putting his finger on that hole in his flight suit and actually trying to cover it with both hands - in his first reaction, the truest one... that shows how much that taste for life actually wins... or at least how strong it is until apathy and head crap take over and convince him that it's all useless and he's nobody and there's no purpose to life etc.

Actually, when I stop to think of it... Kara's suicide attempt later on in the show reminds me so much of Lee's in her inability to follow through at the beginning. Like she hesitates just as much as he does... she doesn't really cut her wrist with enough determination or something and it's also a triumph of life amidst horror. They give in, they do attempt to finish it with their own hands... but it's half-hearted overall... and so showing this simple truth that even if they did manage to do it and weren't both stopped - they were not completely broken. There was a flicker of doubt and remembering there, remembering their connections to other forms of life... like other people important to them.

The difference with Dee for instance is that she just goes ahead and just shoots herself. Ok admittedly with a whole plan to party with her fake husband for the last time, have a semblence of a date with him as a parting gift or something but she has no hesitation, just a clear plan. And pilots are both weaker and stronger for the fact that they do hesitate... and no, they have no clear vision of it... they do wanna life. Moreover Lee is this type of character who tends to ask himself "what for" and not just on a level of family connections. And he's not really convinced that humanity has no higher purpose than killing those deadly machines or each other if needed and thus doomed. Or surviving for one's kids or husbands and wives even. And I think what gives him away is his apologies and goodbye to Kara. How does it make sense if by logic her life should have no value if she's complying with the ugly order to assasinate another human being? And no it doesn't get explained with a simple "he loves her". Or maybe it does but on a deeper level than most people would think. Because in valuing her life and respecting her heart despite the fact that she's ready to kill another human being without questions asked - he shows a hidden form of love and forgiveness for Bill, Laura, Tyrol, Helo... and more importantly - himself too, and willingness to atone or do whatever feels needed in the future. Of course that feeling gets overshadowed by immense pain and head noise that leads to something very close to a disaster anyway... but that's another story.

Hmm... I don't know if what I'm saying makes any sense at all... it's just all an intuitive flow right now. Tell me if I've managed to bore you to death with my ramblings.

Yes, it TOTALLY makes sense! And I definitely get that feeling of 'soldier's humour' in this sequence. Especially in that funny smile Lee gives! :)

in his first reaction, the truest one... that shows how much that taste for life actually wins..
I love love love this description and exploration of it... and it's so interesting to reflect how hung up Lee gets afterwards about the OTHER impulse, the one that comes later. He feels shocked by it and ashamed of it. I remember so vividly fandom's reaction to that arc and how confused by it many people were, how critical of Lee.. i very much wish people could read this and reflect on what you say--that actually in both Kara and Lee there is a very strong impulse to LIVE but they are both at times victims of their own fear and pain.

I've always thought that Kara's and Lee's skirting with death, various times, parallels and mirrors each other--although I hadn't gone so far as to think that their grief is also a mirror. But I was nodding along when you were describing the contrast between them and Dee, as well. As horrible as it was, I do respect what the show showed us with Dee, because I think it is true of a certain type of person that they just decide and do it (particularly in response to devastating loss of hope). And it's a different sort of energy and mechanism than someone that wrestles with self-loathing or is driven to thoughts of suicide through an ongoing excruciating lived-through experience. While both can end in death, I think you're right--it's telling that neither Lee nor Kara really 'see it through' properly.

And I think what gives him away is his apologies and goodbye to Kara.
Ah! I had never thought of it like that!! Although I had a strong instinct about it that made me feel compassion for him and not see someone who was just totally bleak and despairing.

in valuing her life and respecting her heart despite the fact that she's ready to kill another human being without questions asked - he shows a hidden form of love and forgiveness for Bill, Laura, Tyrol, Helo... and more importantly - himself too
Eee, I really want to be able to go back in time to that whole period when people were so confused by that arc and talk about this!! EXACTLY! It does show his great love for them and humanity and his ultimate acceptance of everything. Even when he does let go of this hole in his suit, part of sinking into that darkness was also a feeling of acceptance... he wasn't fighting life any more (but he didn't really want to die--it's a paradox). It was very much the FEELING I had at the time. I was so baffled by people talking of Lee judging and betraying Kara, because I never saw it. Though people got so hung up about him not 'keeping his promise' (and of course I do see that it was very painful for her that he wasn't there to back her up--we see that).

when I think about that time and Lee's headspace, I sort of see or sense that he had to first surrender himself to the horror and circumstances, and through that open up a greater connection to life--and love himself and everyone despite all their painful actions and the circumstances they lived in. But in this sequence of possible suicide he lets it in a bit. And at first as you say it's immense pain and head noise, and he could get washed away by it... but he survives it and surfaces, at first still very shaken, but over time he learns to reconcile it inside himself and connect with the paradox that he STILL FEELS LOVE.

(I am much more rambly!)

Love the mix of images for this line--including Kara literally inside a Cylon!

Oh I thought it was so cool to use because I really wanted to show this confusing situation where Zak as a family stops being family for a moment and becomes a rival - "an alien" on some level... and how it doesn't compute in Lee's head... like Kara being literally inside a Cylon fighter when she gets back Home to Caprica... Caprica that only looks like Home but doesn't feel like Home anymore since the Cylons managed to destroy that world and make it impossible to live there. In that sense Kara is also kind of like an enemy to Lee when he first meets her... robbing him of something very natural and sacred - that bond with his brother.

but here I just love how you have made the row of soldiers reflect the bars of the prison... and then link the two cell scenes

Oh I'm so glad you like this one! :)

This line of 'How rarely one meets one's own kind' is so amazing for them and captures perfectly that sense of knowing and recognising each other that they have instantly

Yeah you know I still remember that scene when they had dinner for the first time and Kara was asking some questions about Lee's perception of things... teasing him and all. And I instantly had a feeling like they intuitively knew how much alike they really were from the get-go. The rest is just a game... a play to recognise it consciously and challenge each other in the areas where one is maybe one step ahead of the other but not far. And Zak was so out of place there in the whole scene. Even when making jokes about Lee always trying to seduce his girlfriends or something like that.

The way he flops his little feet is so perfect here!!! ::flail::

Ohhh I looove that motion! Kills me every time... something so boyish about it :) :) :)

In that sense Kara is also kind of like an enemy to Lee when he first meets her... robbing him of something very natural and sacred - that bond with his brother.
Mmm, coool resonances in that shot, yeah! :) There are so many levels there.

The rest is just a game... a play to recognise it consciously
*nods* :) It's true! (And I remember the feeling of such a game... and such a sense of recognition of first meeting. *G*)

This part is Lee in microcosm for me! Seriously, you could throw out Middleman and just show this 15 seconds instead!

Thank you! It's probably my favorite in the whole vid. Or a second favorite I don't know) It kind of flows to me... hard to say but I'm so pleased you connected with it and I assure you there's no need to throw out Middleman - two vids can exist side by side perfectly well ;)

I love how unflinching this "hense all my hubris" line is. And full of biting sarcasm if you look at it from another perspective. Like he still has to measure it against Adama's hubris... like in that scene when they have a fight about whose grief over Kara's death is more important you know))). So much father and son dynamic there... And I used two shots from Unfinished Business with Adama giving his glorious speech and Lee looking kind of uncomfortable and guilty at how beaten and heavily breathing his father is. There's this undercurrent of guilt I sense from him even in the actual episode you know. Like it's him, Lee, who is responsible for beating the shit out of the Old Man, not Tyrol. Because part of Lee wasn't rooting for Adama I bet... part of him was really living through Tyrol. I also tried to convey in through that show from KLG. Lee takes pleasure in making the difference in opinion show. He can't help it... it's kind of a part of this theme that I continue with Roslin and others who surround him. And yeah he'll be back again. But it doesn't mean he'll stop challenging them, contradicting what they think is true if he thinks of feels otherwise.

OMG that grief scene!! Yeah, I rewatched it recently and I'd forgotten how sharp and cutting it is. (And I still totally take Lee's side in it and get indignant!) But yes, this measuring is very ugly actually, of course. But then who did Lee learn it from? All his life, I think Adama has taught him to 'measure' himself against his father, tried to get him to 'measure up' to these expectations.

Yeah, I liked you using that Unfinished Business footage! I haven't seen it really used that much, and certainly not like this. ;) It also made me think about that scene and how Lee felt about his father in the ring. Especially when you look back at his issues from that New Caprica time.

Mmm, great point that Lee can't stop himself from making it clear where he disagrees. He just can't bring himself to swallow something that doesnt' fit right with his own vision or truth. It's an attribute people struggle to understand, maybe because we're taught to get along, shut up, 'keep the peace' with others so much.

1.10 Then using the shot of Tyrol reacting to Lee when he first arrives is AMAZING because it reminds us of how Lee is misunderstood, how no one around him really understands the scars he carries mentally or why he's like that ...

You know it really made me pay attention even more actually. To Lee's behavior, the way he was reacting, behaving, what he was saying... In that scene with Kara in the brig it was so clear already how much pain and resentment he carries around and that he's got his reasons even we don't know shit about them. His attitude is such a social mask of perfection... like Starbuck's, just as effective in making a different impression to what is buried beneath it. I love that shot too... and I revelled in the fact that I could show the whole thing, even focus more closely than in the series...

1.15 Beautiful transition with the use of the flyover! :)

Oh this sense of admiration is totally mine you know... I let them admire the Viper pilots skills - and secretly was just enjoying showing that glow that Billy and Laura catch for a moment, a beam of light... like it's coming from this one person, a leading pilot. I'm guilty of letting my imagination interfere here and enjoy itself with no shame at all :P

And a nice reminder that while Lee might have had a lot of 'tude' about doing it, he still turned up. ;)

SO true. He had a bonus meeting waiting for him there though ;)

the fact that I could show the whole thing, even focus more closely than in the series
Yeah, I also revel in it: as a viewer!! :) I love vids so much for that--the spotlight they can shine on particular scenes and give them more resonance, explore different layers.

Heee, I'm sooo glad you let yourself enjoy yourself with that viper flyover scene! Yes, you're right it's a great reaction that GLOW! :) Sometimes it's easy to forget these moments in all the hard ugly horror of the show but there's so much beauty too. :)

1.18 This eyebrow twitch back and forth? Is VERY CLOSE to being my favourite thing in the whole entire vid. The first time I watched it (without subtitles) I was just all squeeeeeeeeeee and I could follow exactly this narrative. It's a great whole sequence, of course, showing how Lee had stored up anger and feelings that explode out of him--both with Sharon and with Kara. 'my heart was in shadow' is PERFECT!

OMG, 'climbing over the walls of this pride isn't easy'!! More flaaaaaaaaaiiiil: AMAZING line for him! And you show us how much it took for him to come back from his anger and jealousy to a place of gentle attempt to connect with Kara and tell her he in fact loved her ...

1.43-1.48
This is a fabulous sequence with Shevon! The shot that makes it all click for me is this one of Lee holding his neck and looking confused ... like 'how did this come about?' and the feeling I get is of him tying his own noose ... it's a great metaphor! Because of course he walks into this mess, he creates it, and he's so blind in it really.

2.13
Beautiful sequence to end in this shot of Lee returning to life! The looks of relief from Roslin (and Lee) are so gorgeous. I'm glad you let us linger on them.

2.20 This line of bad memory and nasty temper is adorable! :) I probably shouldn't find it so but I do. ;) I love the delivery of the singer... as if he is just stating the truth and not apologising, but not defending himself either. It's very very Lee.

2.24 'I don't know anyone who's not right'
Hahaha, this again cracks me up!! :) Especially with Gaius's hilarious reaction shot there! :) It's a great line to explore about Lee and it fits perfectly for this time when he defends the rights of 'anyone' (Gaius). Although it is amusing, it's also a reflection of Lee's deep nature--that he can hold opposing truths in his mind at the same time, that he can wrestle with contradictions, and he senses something deeper beneath 'right' and 'wrong', 'black' and 'white'.

2.31 Love the timing on the handclasp!! :) A beautiful shot to use here!

2.39 Another bit that makes me giggle (fondly) is this moment of Lee stuffing his face and Dualla annoyedly trying to get him to move his leg to get some papers. Juxtaposed with this line about being 'aware' it just cracks me up. Yeah, Lee... you're doing your best to stuff yourself full of crap to AVOID being AWARE of ANYTHING. :p :p :p

2.42 FAVOURITE BIT IS FAVOURITE!!!!! :D
OMG, his adorable little wince at her falling over!! The Wince of Love!!! :) And the way it's timed to this line of 'no ANGEL' (but it sounds much better in Russian!) just makes little fireworks of joy go off inside me!! And the transition to this very sincere 'he's just the way he is' marvelling at Kara, where we can see Lee's love, acceptance and reverence for her, is delightful and perfect (I will overuse the word perfect!)

2.51 Eee, great visual juxtaposition of the wings and his actual viper. The sense of 'returning' is then so beautiful in the sequence that follows.

I love how you show the whole messy beauty of things in this vid... it shows some of the most painful parts of BSG universe but there's a feeling of reconciling oneself wryly to them... and it fits so well for Lee because that's the journey he's on. Learning to live with the ups and huge downs... his marriage ending, winding up on opposing sides of the courtroom from Laura, for instance.

3.13-3.22
I love these walking shots! Lee walking beside Adama (after having been in opposition) and then panning out to see that Kara also walks beside them... it's gorgeous! And fits with this theme of 'I will be back' (despite 'saying goodbye') and I walk with you in this crazy journey.

1.18 This eyebrow twitch back and forth? Is VERY CLOSE to being my favourite

Hee. Glad you approve! It was a pleasure to show and _feel_ this confusion and anger in his physical threatening directed at Sharon and Kara. And yeah... I love that close-up, playing with it seemed appropriate with this "Well, I'm sorry!"(but you brought this on yourself!" kind of line)).

OMG, 'climbing over the walls of this pride isn't easy'!! More flaaaaaaaaaiiiil

Bring on the sarcasm! :) :) :) That's what those lyrics begged to make of them. It's an interesting compromise between the seriousness of the claim and the biting humor.

The shot that makes it all click for me is this one of Lee holding his neck and looking confused ...

Thanks for reading this! As I mentioned before - the shot of Lee touching his neck with an "I don't know why it hurts and why I'm suddenly in the middle of all this shit" expression is key to the whole sequence...) I don't have to show how he was being strangled for us to _feel_ it through the shot you know? The disorientation and all. And yeah I wanna shake him and say: "I'm sorry sweetie but this shouldn't be THIS surprising to you!")))) He's such a fool there. Trying desperately to make sense of things and still not quite reaching that level of awareness yet. I love it! So human! :)

I love the delivery of the singer... as if he is just stating the truth and not apologising, but not defending himself either. It's very very Lee.

Exactly. This is very Lee :) The "bad memory" ting cracks me up!)))

Although it is amusing, it's also a reflection of Lee's deep nature--that he can hold opposing truths in his mind at the same time, that he can wrestle with contradictions, and he senses something deeper

The amusing thing for me is how Baltar just physically can't stand the freedom and outward nonchalance with which Lee's talking about his life and death, him being guilty or not. He just jumps, off his seat and away... to the other corner of the room. Literally! It's sooo showing!)) Of his reaction... and people's in general. Love it!

You know even in the third episode of S1 some viewers were accusing Lee of not having his own opinion or a firm position to defend and argue in defense for. To me this "anyone who isn't right" line is probably the deepest truths of all in the whole video when I start thinking of it seriously. What's "being right" as a concept, as an idea anyway??? Who is this person or group of people who define what is legitemately wrong or right? It tackles how much people identify themselves with some dead fixated "truths" and fight for them madly like it's a matter of honor whereas the whole thing is just bullshit inside their heads anyway. They give it importance and it GETS important. And real. For them. Lee is a very uncomfortable person to be around or just watch because he's flexible and he questions things. From the first sight it may seem like there's lack of character strength in it, but actually it's a sign of some innate wisdom, readiness to experiment and see what comes of it. And people are genearallly uncomfortable when they see some character who's not rigidly defined in his or her beliefs and more than that - starts asking "stupid" questions. It gets interpreted as weakness or conformism, spinelessness. I associate this trait with "transparency" so to speak... he has moments when he's not directly opposed to anything or fighting FOR anything, he's kind of floating... and in those - tuth has a tendency to come out and surprise even him. And it's so vibrant and life-like!.. even if unpleasant sometimes. :)

playing with it seemed appropriate with this "Well, I'm sorry!"(but you brought this on yourself!" kind of line)).
Hahaha, yeah that's it exactly! it's one of those 'sorry's that immediately get undermined by explaining WHY. ;p There's that edge of defiance in it!

"I'm sorry sweetie but this shouldn't be THIS surprising to you!"))))
Yeah, that's the feeling I get in response EXACTLY and it totally charms me. Actually makes me love him even more while also really seeing this quite extreme blindness and naivety here. Very very human. That's the thing, he WAS trying to find meaning and sort through things in Black Market... he was just really deep in confusion. And I still struggle to understand why more people can't see and relate to that--after all, aren't so many of us pretty blind but wellmeaning in life?

The delivery of the singer is AMAZING. It makes me want to learn the Russian so I can sing along because the intonation is soooo addictively good. I can feel his biting humour (with deep truth underneath) so strongly.

how Baltar just physically can't stand the freedom and outward nonchalance with which Lee's talking about his life and death
Hahaha, yeah... they were the hugest contrast to each other. And it makes me remember how much I loved another shot of Baltar from that period, in the courtroom when he just stares TOTALLY AGHAST and DESPAIRING at Lee. Like 'who the fuck is this lunatic defending me?' When I was all 'no youuuuuuu're the madman here!!' But yeah, it's such a classic reaction of recoiling! :D :D

"anyone who isn't right" line is probably the deepest truths of all in the whole video
*nods* It was the line that REALLY got me thinking a lot in response to it ... Others like the 'God' line were just a total recognition and JOY at seeing it expressed and then joyfully feeling its different layers of resonance. But this one made me really start thinking--and I think it's so rare to find a lyric that can express something like this, about this subtle but fundamental nature of Lee's. And you uncover something critical about him. Then, as you say, it really changes us to ask 'well how DO we determine who is right?' And suddenly from being a joke it starts to seem like maybe Lee is the one who has hit the nail on the head instead. What's amazing though is that although he DOES feel that--is able to see multiple sides of situations--it doesn't paralyse him: at least not most of the time ;). He does listen to his own internal wisdom. But even when he argues for a certain viewpoint, I always feel like if someone proved to him that something else was right and he really felt that, he would change his mind. We SEE him change his mind sometimes. We see him listen to things and be swayed... and I like seeing it! Because I hate, hate, hate that human trait of clinging to some belief at all costs out of ego. What's so bad about expanding or changing your mind? And saying 'hey maybe I was wrong after this, or you are more right here'?

But those floating moments you discuss--yeah... I hadn't thought of it exactly like that but it's true and very rare to have portrayed in television where writers like to have characters neatly opposed to each other so viewers can follow. :p But to broaden out from television those 'floating' moments of suspending our previously held beliefs and opening to different possibilities are so beautiful and important... what makes personal and collective transformation possible. AMAZING!!! I just revel in your ability to show such a subtlety in a vid. It renews my faith in vids as a medium for expressing truths and beauty and something original!

When Lee eats himself silly and keeps complaining about stuff which annoys Dee to no end?)))... it makes me laugh too every time!))) But then there's a shot with Doral who puts a bottle of juice in front of this guy they're trying to force to cooperate in a detention center by pointing out how humans and cylons could work together on plantations to produce this very juice etc etc. And the contrast is so huge... that it kind of makes me stop for a second and go - It's not funny at all, Lee... you're just totally clueless right now what it's like for them down there... but your inner drama is so huge that of course it's more important right now. All consuming. So much that in physically manifests itself). Again - human nature in this "scenery" slays and captivates me.

Ed also pointed out that the juice shot and the shot of Lee eating reflect that both are forms of deception, one internal, one external coming from the literal enemy and I think it's what I was aiming for to show too.

The "awareness" bit is where I tried to visually think of this irony that Lee tends to always be the last one to find out the news you know? And there's some simmetry to his character traits in it too. Like a test. You get blunt facts as the last person in line and it kind of challenges you to deal with new information in a shorter amount of time. Not just when Adama plans to kill Cain... but in this amazing "Kara got married" scene too)). And then it's also a sign of Lee's blindness when it comes to closest people. His own desires blind him... with Roslin... and even in Maelstrom. And he's unable to sense some extra anxiety or some unpleasant reality that has always been there he just prefered to ignore (with Laura)... or it just takes him a long time to start trusting his intuitive feeling that something's seriously wrong with this other person he cares so much about (Kara). But he's a step too late. And then he gets offended like a kid that nobody warned him... but part of the truth is he also played a role in paving a way to this "unfairness". :) Oh Lee! :)


"God is not an Angel"... yeah. I'll spare you having to listen to me rambling about this one. I could talk about it for ages I think. It's a personal favorite in the song for me too. And it rings true on too many levels to name! I'm very glad you enjoy seeing this bit as it turned out to be in the finale version! :) It's actually the first scene I had a clear vision for in the whole video from the get-go. The vid was basically born out of it :)

When Lee eats himself silly and keeps complaining about stuff which annoys Dee to no end?)))... it makes me laugh too every time!)))
Haha, yeah! That bit! It really cracks me up. :) But omg, what a great insight from Ed about the internal and external threat, and yeah, you twist the knife reminding us of the reality Lee is ignoring. It also shows what it takes to block so much--he can't just do it mentally, he has to really use something (food) to keep numbing himself.

I'd thought of Lee's blindness about people closest to him, but yes... you're right, he often falls into this 'last to know' trap too. And it's very painful but he doesn't see how much of it is self-created also. A step too late ... yes, that's it exactly.

I'll spare you having to listen to me rambling about this one.
BUT THIS IS THE ONE I LOVE BEST!!!! I'll just pester you about it elsewhere. :p

In the final version I can *feel* how it is the central kernel. At least it works that way for me also. (and come to think about it as the last 'gem' we receive from the singer before the final refrain it is also framed that way in the original song) So yeah... I can feel the vid being born out of it.

3.26 I love that you included the typing to each other!! :) And this secret little mission! It's so adorable and with that shot of Kara laughing it feels so joyful. Your use of her face in the ending really worked for me, because after having explored this feeling of Lee being all 'what the hell, life?!' and smiling despite everything, you then show how that gives Kara so much joy. How she revels in this side of him and loves him for it, despite all his contradictions and how earnestly he can take himself sometimes.

I get strongly a feeling that this vid captures Lee's capacity for his ego to fall away sometimes and not to be 'in' this pain/anger/anguish/confusion but to just observe it and even to smile at himself (and life). And of course that allows him to be more open to seeing its beauty. Kara is the reflection of that, here, for me, at the end of the vid, in her most glowing, radiant state. :)

I'm sure I'll get a ton more out of it on future watches: I am DELIGHTED by it!!

Drat, cannot see the streaming version on YouTube for some reason. Will try again later... (I can't download because my machine is old and has no room left for DL's) Must wait for my Lee fix! :)

Oh hi Indi. I've just uploaded to vimeo for you, check the link maybe it'll work better than YouTube. Although it's saddening to know you can't download since the lyrics in this song add a lot to the meaning!..

But yay for Lee love anyway! :)

Thank you, sweetie!! I will go check out Vimeo now!! (Might be able to download onto Mr!Indi's computer when he gets home, we'll see... :))

Here's a file that's not too large (28 mb) with fixed subtitles: http://www.sendspace.com/file/df70m4

I also reuploaded to youtube this other version that has subtitles in it, you can check the youtube link if it's more convenient. I hope you enjoy! :)

Ahhh, finally got to sit down and watch the version with subtitles!! What a perfect song for Lee - and you've captured his idealism, his temper, even his devotion which sometimes is wrested from him at great cost (he can't help himself...). Wonderful, nuanced view of Lee that we don't often get in fandom (imho). Thank you so much for sharing him with us! :) <3 <3 <3